Buying A Used Radio: How To Avoid Getting Stuck With A Dud.

Removing a barrier to entry.

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TenTec Argonaut QRP radio. Photo courtesy RKS Designs.

As it has been for, well, forever, used ham radio equipment is still a major gateway into the hobby. Many beginners, and even some old hands, have limited budgets. Or maybe an operator wants to try a new mode or band without risking a lot of money. And for many of us, including me, we don’t “need” another radio but sometimes the deal is just too good to pass up. How does one go about buying a used radio without being disappointed or ripped off? Keep scrolling and find out.

Step one: Know what you are looking for.

Before you go hunting for a used radio, define your needs. What are your “must have” functions? In what areas are you willing to compromise? Be realistic: Are your demands reasonable for the money you are spending? Don’t be the guy who wants Elecraft on a Baofeng budget.

On the other side, you don’t want to compromise so much that you won’t get good use of the rig. Budget is a big factor for most hams shopping for a used radio, but it should not be the only thing that matters.

Factors to consider:

  • Bands and modes.
  • Power output.
  • Are accessories/power supply included?
  • If accessories/power supply are not included, what will it cost to get them?
  • Size/weight of the radio—will it physically work for your application?

Do not shop for any radio equipment or consider any brand or model before addressing these concerns! By the way, these issues also apply when purchasing new equipment.

Step two: Make a short list.

Once you’ve clearly defined your needs, do your homework and create a list of used radios that fit your criteria. You can be as picky as you wish on this step, but understand that the more picky you are, the fewer options you’ll have.

It’s very possible you will not find a radio that has 100% of your wish list features. This is why it’s important to prioritize and know ahead of time what you’re willing to give up.

Once you’ve done your due diligence and identified a suitable radio, how you proceed will depend on whether you’re buying on line or in person.

Buying radio equipment on line.

Buying used radios on line is popular but places the buyer at a serious disadvantage. You can’t inspect the equipment or test it; you’re depending on a few photos and the honesty of the seller.

Ask a lot of questions, and pay attention to how the seller answers them. Do they respond quickly with clear, forthright statements? Or are they slow to respond, and when they do, are vague and cagey? Why are they are selling the radio, and are they the original owner? Is there a return policy or any warranty?

Ask for a video of the radio powered up and in operation. Consider it a “red flag” is the seller refuses or gives weak reasons why this cannot be done. This expectation is so common, many online listings already include a video.

Check out the seller’s background. Most e-commerce sites like eBay have seller ratings. You can also google the seller’s callsign and name to see if there are any disqualifying factors.

In person sales.

You’re going to ask the same questions and take the same approach as on line sales, but with the advantage of personally inspecting the radio before you hand over any money.

Look over the enclosure. Modest scratches and chipped paint are not a great concern; excessive cosmetic blemishes are. Inspect for dents in the case, bent knobs or hardware, and cracks. These are signs that the radio has been dropped, hit, or physically abused. Look for misaligned or crooked external parts, or missing/mismatched screws; these are signs that the radio has been disassembled at some point. Give the radio a good shake. I’m not kidding. Shake it, and listen for any loose parts rattling around inside. Any deficiencies in these areas are not automatic deal breakers, but they do warrant further investigation.

The seller will probably not let you remove the cover to inspect inside, but it’s very helpful if they do. If an internal inspection is not possible, smell the air vents for the telltale odor of overheated components. Power up the radio and check  all the functions. Make sure the displays and lights work. While the radio is on, gently tap the enclosure and note any blinking lights/displays or audio drop out in response to the tapping.

Lastly, inspect any accessories. In particular, verify any connecting cables. Some cables may be difficult to replace if they are broken or missing. Make sure you are fully aware of what is (or is not) included.

The finish line.

So you’ve run the gauntlet, all the flags are green, and you bring your new-to-you rig home. What now? The first priority should be to connect it up in its intended application and thoroughly test everything: Every mode, every setting, every control and function. Leave it on for an hour or more. Some problems don’t reveal themselves until the rig has warmed up.

Hopefully it all checks out. If it does, congratulations! Mission success. If a problem pops up that you did not find during the pre-purchase inspection, all is not lost. If it’s a minor malfunction, simply fix it yourself. Most problems can be resolved with a quick internet search. Whatever is wrong with the radio, someone else already experienced it and came up with a solution.

If it’s a major issue that cannot be remedied with an easy DIY fix you can seek a refund, but it’s unlikely the seller will cooperate. If you bought it through one of the e-commerce sites, try engaging their buyer-seller resolution process. Otherwise, there really isn’t a path out. Make of it what you can and move on. Giving an unethical seller a bad review or calling them out on the internet may feel like justice, but it won’t fix your radio.

When buying a used radio, the risk of getting stuck with a total dud is not high but it’s not zero either. Being circumspect and following these guidelines will greatly increase your odds of having a good experience.

8 thoughts on “Buying A Used Radio: How To Avoid Getting Stuck With A Dud.

  1. Mark Triplett

    Great post & very informative! I purchased an Icom 7300 last year from eBay with good success. the radio looked new, it was previously purchased from an estate sale. Not a scratch on the case and the price was very good. It does have an issue with the USB connector, that’ll have to send it to Icom for repair, but considering the price paid, it’s worth it. It did have a video and showed serial numbers and the like.

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  2. Randall Krippner

    Good advice all the way around. I’ve been extremely fortunate when buying used equipment and have never gotten burned myself, but I am very cautious. I almost never buy used equipment online, though. I generally only buy locally from individuals or at hamfests where I can actually examine the radio or whatever in person before I pay.

    One thing that’s been bothering me for some time now is pricing on used equipment. Is it just me or are prices on used ham equipment often ridiculously high? When I was looking for an FT-817 a few years ago used prices were ridiculously high, often just a couple of hundred bucks under the cost of a brand new one, so I said the heck with it and just bought a new FT-818.

    Hope you made it through the winter storms okay! Here in Wisconsin we missed the snow and freezing rain but got hit by extremely cold temperatures. I think we got as low as -20 with a windchill of well below -40 that one night according to my weather station.

    Mostly of late I’ve been playing with JS8 on the radio. Well, at least monitoring it. I turn off the automated reply and just let it run while I’m working on other stuff. JS8 has a huge amount of potential but it seems to be mostly just automated ACK messages to “heartbeat” requests for some reason.

    If you follow my blog you know I’ve really been getting into this laser thing of late. I reached the point where my existing equipment just couldn’t do what I wanted so I dropped what was probably too much money on a much more powerful one with a much larger working area and one I can add a roller feeder to so it can handle material up to 15″ wide and up to 5′ long and cut wood up to 1″ thick or more depending on the type. Being able to work with real wood in in useful thicknesses and sizes instead of being limited to thin plywood is going to be interesting.

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    1. Chris Warren Post author

      Hi Randy, you are right about the prices of used gear. I think we’ve reached a tipping point where it makes more sense to spend a little more and buy new. If enough people start doing that the price of used equipment will drop. It’s an unfortunate cycle.

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  3. Christopher Hart

    Step1 – done
    Step 2 – done
    Then I found a second-hand Icom IC-R5 online. I checked the seller and saw a lot of detail about the seller on QRZ and decided to buy. It was a dud. He said he had tested it but it was beyond repair, no refund, the radio has been scrapped. In the meantime I had bought the wall wart charger and software, useless now. Money – drain.
    There is no substitute for a hands-on purchase. I only wanted the thing to monitor air band, as it had the 8.33 kHz tuning steps necessary in Europe.
    Next move, as one of the correspondents above points out, with used kit overpriced, let’s go for a new radio. I priced up a new R6. Adding all the frilly bits necessary (software, programming cable, drop-in charger) made it more expensive than an air band transceiver, the Yaesu FTA-250L was a lot less money, and didn’t need any frilly bits (and the software is free), all the kit you need, straight out of the box. And a very nice thing with this radio, one thing that would put me off any other transceiver because of the risk of accidentally transmitting, this radio can have the PTT inhibited using the set menu.
    And if you are not bothered about buying a quality radio with a good handbook, look at Chinese options like the Quansheng TK11(8), which will do the business, plus a lot more stuff you might not need, for a quarter of the price.
    No more online second-hand purchases for me!

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    1. Chris Warren Post author

      Hi Chris, thanks for your comment.

      I’m very suspicious of buying used gear online too, for the reasons you articulated. I hear many stories similar to yours.

      And with the price of used radios being only marginally lower than new, the value proposition is fading fast.

      I’m sorry you got a bum deal, but I hope your experience helps others. Thanks again for sharing.

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  4. jim

    I have bought and sold a fair amount of radios on ebay and qth eham, as always check the seller on the site pictures, and look for telltale red flags(is the email adr the same as qrz, etc)
    the big one for me is using paypal goods and services only, if they take only friends and family run quickly.
    this will protect you and get your refund.
    my only bad buys were at hamfests when seller said it works fb, an hw8 that had a build error and knightkit t50
    that was actually missing tubes and bad caps, but that was offset by fixing them myself.
    most hams are honest and willing to help you.

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    1. Chris Warren Post author

      Hi Jim, thanks for your message. To be fair to the ham fest guys…I think many of them don’t even know what they are selling. Or they give you the “it worked when I last used it 20 years ago” line.

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